
Why do you copy other people’s poems and passages into your notebooks?
Why don’t you write your own stuff?
But I do, I answered. You know I do.
Then why this?
How do you explain the notion of a commonplace book to a non-writer?
For inspiration, I say, For enjoyment, the way people flicker through old photo albums
or their smart phone galleries.
But it wasn’t quite like that.
It was modeling too,
getting the feel for writing at the top of its game, to remind you how it’s done,
for quotes like this: ‘I don’t believe in writer’s block … plumbers don’t get plumber’s block,
doctors don’t get doctor’s block.
Why should writers be any different and then expect sympathy for it?’
[ Philip Pullman]
But she didn’t get it.
You’ve got heaps of these notebooks in your cupboard, she said. What is wrong with you?
Have you no faith in yourself?
There was no point in arguing.
But when she came upon me ‘copying’ I would flinch as if caught in some shameful act.
I think it’s like saying why do you watch cricket when you play it yourself. Why watch old matches? But people do. Mr Worms watches old Grand Prix races.
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yes, it goes pretty deep, doesn’t it? my cousin watches old Grand Prix races too. I feel I could have given a more persuasive answer — but I still do it ๐
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And so you should. The writing of others can be inspiring. I don’t knowvwhy it’s called a common place book though.
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I’nm familiar with them; I’ve read websites on them but I’m still not clear why they’re called that, indeed whether even the term should be capitalized but I do know I’ve kept them — without knowing the name — for over thirty years and have kept many of them — such curious creatures ๐
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Wow! Mr Worms is a Grand Prix driver! D.๐พ
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Daniel Ricciardo, you reckon? ๐
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I think when you are drawn to doing something, you immerse yourself in things that have anything to do with it – reading/watching/learning from others how have gone before you, and trying your own hand with it
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that’s a very good argument, Beth; thanks ๐
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Hmmm?
No comprende, “commonplace book”
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just 120 or 240 page notebooks really where I copy down poems I like, passages from books, quotations, drafts of poems or stories, posts that strike me as, well, striking — and so on; it’s a compendium, a mish-mash of tid-bits and I’ve got over a hundred of them, and whenever I get bored or uninspired I browse through one or two at random —
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Inspiration! Sometimes elusive, sometimes in a box. In the closet.
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๐ yes; many writers have kept them; the earliest known one goes back to the times of the roman Emperor, Marcus Aurelius whose Meditations are a collection of notes, thoughts and quotations
; thanks Google ๐
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In my journals I have lines and quotes from otherโs. Itโs the same reason some people take pictures, maybe? When words strike my heart I like to write them. They even springboard my own creativity at times. When I began teaching I used an overhead projector and traced color sheets, etcโฆ one said I was โcopyingโ and I further explained I was working on my tracing skills. Another one said, โSheโs just teaching herself how to!โโฆ.How to! Thatโs it! โบ๏ธ
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I like those little anecdotes: they sum up a range of opinions from copying to educating … to creativity —
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Thank you, John! I hope youโre well!
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thanks K; got my bounce back, as the refitted trampoline said ๐
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I eel the same when I create found poetry, even with all the sources referenced and full credit bestowed. Still, I’m that serial killer writer cutting and pasting and making my mad, mad art. Cheers to you, copy cat, student, teacher.
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hahahaha; I love your ‘mad, mad art’ — and hey! we all find our own way ๐
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Indeed. Cheers to doing it our own way!
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it’s the only way we can retain individuality of voice ; you don’t want to sound like anyone e;se, though the Monkees got away with it for years ๐
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You learn by seeing how others do things. If you’re a carpenter, you watch the more experienced carpenter over his lathe. For the poet it’s no different. In fact, what you’ve got there is a META-POEM, a poem about poetry about poetry. Tasty.
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thanks Catxman: astutely argued; we never stop learning, right ?
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Anything at all that helps the creative process has got to be a good thing, n’est pas?
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I would think so; my friend has got the wrong end of the stick ๐
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I have journals too, that I constantly go back to and look for ideas. Sometimes leaving some writing alone for a year, when you come back to it, it’s better then you thought.
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I’m glad you said that, Bob: I don’t know how widespread journal writing, of the commonplace book variety, is among writers —
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I use them to free associate, and come up with ideas. But I’d be pretty embarrassed if anyone read them. Usually my first ideas need lots of work.
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mine too ๐
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It has something to do with kinesthetic intelligence, learning through physical activity.
I do this at work, one or two notebooks per year that I hardly ever look in again but I remember the things written or sketched.
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I like that: we do remember things written or sketched and kinesthetic intelligence is a good name for it —
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Haha! Non-writers will just never get it. It’s a sub-conscious conditioning. ๐
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All part of your absorption of the craft — reading, writing, immersing yourself in the words of masters.
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thanks, Eden: ‘absorption’ sums it up well ๐
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I did the same. Beside quotes, I wrote conversation from mangas too.
It just simply because I felt it was precious and heartwarming. It encouraged me. There’s nothing wrong with doing it. And why would she thinks you copy their writings? There’s nothing wrong with documenting what’s precious to us. Isn’t it normal?
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a terrific answer. I like that ๐
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Thanks ๐
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